Native visual reasoning treats visual generation as the medium of reasoning itself: visual states (i.e. images and videos) are not merely inputs to be understood or outputs to be rendered, but first-class substrates for problem solving beyond language. Yet progress remains bottlenecked by the lack of scalable training tasks, reliable feedback, and controlled comparisons across generative substrates. In this work, we introduce VBVR-Pro, a closed-loop testbed that makes native visual reasoning through generation trainable, verifiable, optimizable, and experimentally controllable. 1) Task scaling. VBVR-Pro turns visual reasoning into a controlled task space of 300 procedurally generated tasks. Models trained on VBVR-Pro show strong transfer beyond the proposed suite across seven external visual reasoning benchmarks such as RISE-Video, MME-CoF-Pro, and BabyVision. 2) Verifiable rewards. VBVR-Pro provides verifiable reward scorers for task-grounded evaluation. Through a systematic study of leading MLLMs as judges, we identify recurring failure modes of the prevalent VLM-as-a-judge paradigm. In contrast, the proposed scorers are grounded in deterministic, task-specific rules, achieve fine-grained alignment with human judgments. Importantly, they serve as reliable reward signals for large-scale multi-task reinforcement learning and demonstrate stronger post-RL performance across visual reasoning tasks. 3) Mechanism study. VBVR-Pro enables controlled modality studies across more than 30 image, video, and interleaved generators. Our analysis shows that video generation remains strongest for tasks requiring persistent spatiotemporal state tracking, while interleaved generation provides a compute-efficient alternative. Critically, ablations and probing suggest the presence of vision-native trajectories that are crucial to visual reasoning. We release all data, models, scorers, and code.
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Large language models are increasingly trained and deployed with long contexts that span documents, code repositories, and interaction histories. This scaling reflects the implicit assumption that training on longer contexts will only help the model by exposing it to richer evidence. We challenge this view by studying how the context window shapes a model's mode of learning, shifting it between parametric internalization and contextualization. We propose the Information Abundance Paradox, which hypothesizes that abundant relevant information in the training context can reduce the incentive to encode that information parametrically, thereby increasing reliance on context. In pretraining with long documents, increasing the context window improves language modeling, natural language understanding, and closed-book MCQA only up to an intermediate optimum, after which performance consistently declines. In supervised fine-tuning, more task-relevant train-time context improves performance with supporting context, but reduces robustness when context is absent or misleading at test time. Our analysis suggests that this behavior arises when longer context provides a lower complexity solution. Mechanistically, training with informative context shifts gradient pressure from feed-forward networks, often linked to parametric knowledge, toward attention modules, and causal interventions show that this shift increases reliance on context during inference. Overall, these findings support the Information Abundance Paradox and suggest that scaling toward near-infinite context is not simply a matter of supplying more data, even when high-quality long-context data is abundant.
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